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pywacket ([personal profile] pywacket) wrote2003-01-14 04:21 pm

not Pete

Please tell me it isn't true about Pete townshend.

[identity profile] eac.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't convict him before he's been to trial.

*hug*

[identity profile] eyesickle.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
you know, i've been restraining myself from posting on this topic. but i certainly - as those of you who've put up with previous RL rants on the subject know; consider yourself luckily exempt thus far, pywacket - am thinking about it.

i'm sorry, but "doing research for my autobiography" is a very odd excuse.

and i certainly grew up with those records. and am quite distressed. and trying to repeat "separate the artist from his work" like a mantra.

[identity profile] mattblakk.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Just what exactly did you think "Rough Boys" was all about?

They've got his credit card info. . .he apparently downloaded some stuff. . . who knows what it is. . .

How about Paul Rubens?

[identity profile] umpqua.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Huge press coverage when the police invaded his house and confiscated 5 computers and 2 laptops among other things to search for child porn.
Where was the press coverage when they found NOTHING on those computers?

But the DA is still going forward using images taken in the 1800's from Paul's extensive erotica collection.

I think the Pete thing is different than it is being portrayed in the media.

Sounds like an OJ excuse

[identity profile] assriel.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
to me...tho. But innocent until proven guilty...I guess.

[identity profile] jola.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
mmmmmm yes. What i can't reconcile w/ this behavior is the fact that he donated money and performed benefit concerts for child abuse prevention ... was it guilt? Or is he telling the truth?? I'm withholding judgement for now.

-Jola

[identity profile] unquietmind.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
it's not true.
i'm tired of discussing it, but if you follow his writings on his web site .... it's easy to see what really happened

it's not true. it's not.

[identity profile] thingie.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I personally dont think he's guilty. He didnt download anything. He used the credit card to get into the site, which was admittedly, very stupid.

They said that his name was also on a child porn site's subscription list, but spyware/scumware could have easily done that. I think that if a whole bunch of kiddie porn was on his computer, it would raise some suspicions, but there wasn't.

[identity profile] oblomova.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm withholding judgment, too. I think if he really was doing this a lot, on a regular basis, he would be smart enough to have someone else obtain it for him. The fact that he "outed" himself about going to the site to me seems to support his story.

As for whether it's a strange excuse or not -- well, how many people who are abused as children end up in the sex trade? How many exorcise their demons by getting into S&M? Maybe going to this site is a way for Townshend to exorcise his demons. Andrea Dworkin wrote a piece once about Nazi imagery in porn she found in Israel and how disturbing she found it. Susie Bright responded to that by noting (I'm paraphrasing, because I can't locate the exact quote -- lo siento) that she didn't find that unusual: we eroticize the taboo and the dangerous, and in Israel, what's more taboo than the Holocaust? If Townshend was abused (and I wouldn't discount the possibility), then it does make a weird sort of sense that he would want to confront it in that way. If he had tons of child porn on his computers, that would be one thing. But until all the evidence is in, I say don't give in to the group lynching mentality. Not that you were.

On a different topic: I shared your "I don't like that baby" anecdote with my best pal Kat, whose daughter is two months old. She laughed a whole lot. "Uh, it's a BABY! How can you form any reasonable perspective on a person at that stage of life, let alone pronounce judgment to someone else?" Exactly.

Here's the paper.

[identity profile] umpqua.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The Paper he was writing (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/petetownshend1.html).

Also...

[identity profile] oblomova.livejournal.com 2003-01-14 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
...I don't think they should go after Pete without arresting Bill Wyman for fucking a 13-year-old girl. So what if he married her later on?