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Only 5 Episodes of BUFFY Left
> -
> With the final episode of BVTS
> beginning production today, the UPN series will return
> next Tuesday, April 15th, with the first of the series'
> final five episodes. In the episode, Faith rejoins the
> growing Scooby Gang, just as The First empowers a
> malevolent cleric (FIREFLY's Nathan Fillion) as its
> new right-hand man.
> The four remaining one-hour episodes of BUFFY will
> air on April 29th, May 6th, May 13th, and May 20th.
> http://www.upn.com
> -
> With the final episode of BVTS
> beginning production today, the UPN series will return
> next Tuesday, April 15th, with the first of the series'
> final five episodes. In the episode, Faith rejoins the
> growing Scooby Gang, just as The First empowers a
> malevolent cleric (FIREFLY's Nathan Fillion) as its
> new right-hand man.
> The four remaining one-hour episodes of BUFFY will
> air on April 29th, May 6th, May 13th, and May 20th.
> http://www.upn.com
Yay, Faith is back!
I can't believe that we'll be seeing the end of BTVS. It's one of the only shows I've ever watched that, after 7 seasons, didn't feel like it was losing its edge. Like the X-Files, which was good for 3 seasons and then went downhill.
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Having watched since the beginning and having seen them re-played on Space, it's clear that this show should have ended after Season 3. Season 4 had some great stuff, and lots of Season 5 was good (until the move from WB to UPN screwed the pooch) but this was a show about high school, and the story reached a completion with graduation.
Season 6 was a disaster, as Marti doesn't have Joss's gift for pacing out the grand arc so that the middle part doesn't feel like treading water, and Season 7 has suffered much of the same.
Now, all that said, I trust Joss to send us out with a bang. He knows the show is done, and he made sure to set the season up in way where the end is appropriately apocalyptic. (My personal pet theory, since we've already seen her do the Martyr bit, is to end this with Buffy becoming a normal girl again - a theme that's been part of the show since the beginning.)
As for beloved Faith, hopefully Eliza has had a chance to shake the rust off a bit. She seemed a touch out of step in her Angel guest shot, but then her interactions with the Scoobies give more to play off of, so that should help.
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One of the things I like best about the show is that the characters (mostly) were allowed to develop beyond their high-school identities. They could have made it so that everybody went off to college and their identities, and their relationships to each other, stayed the same.
Instead, Xander struggles with work and success issues and feeling left out of the college scene. Willow comes into her own in college, while Buffy doesn't fit in and leaves. The scooby gang remains mostly intact, but goes through its own growing pains. I think JW and Co. did a pretty good job with it overall.
I never liked Dawn, and could have done without that whole storyline. The series did sag for a while in the middle, and I agree with you about season 6.
He knows the show is done, and he made sure to set the season up in way where the end is appropriately apocalyptic. (My personal pet theory, since we've already seen her do the Martyr bit, is to end this with Buffy becoming a normal girl again - a theme that's been part of the show since the beginning.)
Yes about JW. I think he'll do it right (unlike the X-Files--that "finale" sucked beyond description). And I like your theory! Can't wait to see how it all turns out.
Personally, I'd like to see Eliza Dushku, James Marsters and Alyson Hannigan go on to greater things after Buffy is done.
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except I've never liked faith's character--two dimensional. It has been improving tho.
I don't know what I'll do without my dose of spike and willow tho.
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But, but she's so HOT!
James Marsters is seriously talented, imo. And Willow is my favorite character. :-)
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But Faith has been all balls and no softness until recently. Until the ep when Angel got her to go to jail.
Willow I would absolutely be in an LTR and the same for spike (however bad for my psyche bad boys are)
Oh god, yes I've thought about this. Maybe I should make my second ever foray into / fiction?
(once long ago with classic trek).
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Actually, if you watch Season 3 closely, you can really see Faith yearn to be saved and then fall to pieces as she can't quite take the step to reach out and Buffy can't quite see it coming.
Her whole arc since then has been about coming to terms with what she was and is.
Interestingly, this makes her and Spike pretty much in the same boat, which could make for a VERY interesting dynamic. (Hell, if we follow my idea, then after all the Slayers in Training are dead, we kill Faith, try to kill Buffy, and Buff releases the power in time for it to return to Faith. Or we just have her do it before Faith dies and the circle is complete. Then Buffy is normal, Giles goes off to create a new Watcher's council that doesn't abuse the Slayers it teaches, and Faith and Spike go off to be crusaders.)
And to set the record straight, I think Season 4 is great, and the evolution of the characters past high school there is wonderful. But given that he couldn't do the exploration of the darkness at the heart of slayerdom in Season 5 (as was obviouslty his intent), I would gladly sacrifice Season 4's goodness to eliminate the drek of parts of 5, almost all of 6, and the rough spots of 7.
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I only indulge in these thoughts in private..so interesting to see them brought into the light so to speak.
I am usually one for terse comments but will not do so in this case...pardon my netettiquete of using too many ellipses in place of proper punctuation. I have a baby and a diabetic cat (and three other...cats that is)
If Faith reached out I couldn't see it, though I thought I did at one point. Her character did NOT make that gesture believable. She has always and remains (though I want to see her differently) two dimensional--hard ass. I never liked her 5 by 5 persona...'cause I had her backstory and it didn't ring true.
At the risk of not responding to everything (cause my own slayer has just started walking and wakes every two hours) please include me in your future discussions.
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No one of consequence.
(I was going to let you catch that reference, but I'm late. I'm a friend (virtually) of
Faith tried to reach out. She checks herself. She bails. She chickens out on making that step. And Buffy, being wrapped up in Buffy-dom (something she has only gotten worse about in years since) never noticed that someone needed to take step to Faith. Angel noticed. He had a shot, but Wes wrecked it. Until Angel season 1.
See below for future discussions. :)
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who ARE this wonderfully intelligent folk infesting my LJ?
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I see Faith and Spike in an interesting reflection of one another yet at the same time, I wonder......
Could it be that they initially get along but "see" themselves in each other and hate that? There seems to be a lot of that going on in the Jossverse. I hated that Firefly was canceled but the dvd is coming in the summer...
Another thing that will FINALLY be laid to rest, by indication of the trailer tonight for next week, FAITH is the slayer line now, not Buffy per se. I'm hoping this is addressed properly as a slip up on the characters, not the writers. Plus that explanation Willow owes Buffy about leaving should be priceless.
I cannot wait!
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Actually, this whole "2 slayers" thing is my vote for what is going on. (I avoid Spoilers like the plague as well.) The giant floating eyeball already said the First is doing this, sezing this opportunity, because of the Slayer's death and resurrection.
Anya immediately thought of what she and the other Scoobies did.
But she thought wrong. The death that screwed the pooch on the Slayer line is Buffy's first death, that in Season 1. That is what created 2 Slayers.
So maybe she keeps getting more and more powerful not because Slayers grow powerful with Age, but because she is past whatever limit death was supposed to impose? Regardless, from here you use magic-logic.
The Wiggins jumps from girl to girl, potential to potential. You can't kill them fast enough to erase it, because if for a nanosecond there aren't enough, it will just find another, even if it must wait. But!! If you kill all the potentials, then you kill the current slayer, the wiggins will go where it can. And where it can is the place it already was... Buffy.
Suddenly you have completed the circle this demonic power started so long ago. And the part of the power that is "jump to the next girl" has already been triggered. Which means when you kill Buffy this time, the Wiggins is gone forever. (Or just goes back to where it was taken from, that original exchange. Say... the physicality of the First, perhaps?)
Anyway, that's my theory.
Oh, and you're not wrong about what may potentially happen to Faith and Spike. But with the show ending, I think they would avoid that. (Very likely if it had gone on, though.)