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pywacket ([personal profile] pywacket) wrote2003-04-08 12:38 pm

for buffy fans

Only 5 Episodes of BUFFY Left
> -
> With the final episode of BVTS
> beginning production today, the UPN series will return
> next Tuesday, April 15th, with the first of the series'
> final five episodes. In the episode, Faith rejoins the
> growing Scooby Gang, just as The First empowers a
> malevolent cleric (FIREFLY's Nathan Fillion) as its
> new right-hand man.
> The four remaining one-hour episodes of BUFFY will
> air on April 29th, May 6th, May 13th, and May 20th.
> http://www.upn.com

Re: Yay, Faith is back!

[identity profile] teaforme.livejournal.com 2003-04-08 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
this was a show about high school, and the story reached a completion with graduation.

One of the things I like best about the show is that the characters (mostly) were allowed to develop beyond their high-school identities. They could have made it so that everybody went off to college and their identities, and their relationships to each other, stayed the same.

Instead, Xander struggles with work and success issues and feeling left out of the college scene. Willow comes into her own in college, while Buffy doesn't fit in and leaves. The scooby gang remains mostly intact, but goes through its own growing pains. I think JW and Co. did a pretty good job with it overall.

I never liked Dawn, and could have done without that whole storyline. The series did sag for a while in the middle, and I agree with you about season 6.

He knows the show is done, and he made sure to set the season up in way where the end is appropriately apocalyptic. (My personal pet theory, since we've already seen her do the Martyr bit, is to end this with Buffy becoming a normal girl again - a theme that's been part of the show since the beginning.)

Yes about JW. I think he'll do it right (unlike the X-Files--that "finale" sucked beyond description). And I like your theory! Can't wait to see how it all turns out.

Personally, I'd like to see Eliza Dushku, James Marsters and Alyson Hannigan go on to greater things after Buffy is done.

Re: Yay, Faith is back!

[identity profile] pywacket.livejournal.com 2003-04-08 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
what you said...

except I've never liked faith's character--two dimensional. It has been improving tho.

I don't know what I'll do without my dose of spike and willow tho.

Re: Yay, Faith is back!

[identity profile] teaforme.livejournal.com 2003-04-08 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
except I've never liked faith's character--two dimensional.

But, but she's so HOT!

James Marsters is seriously talented, imo. And Willow is my favorite character. :-)

Re: Yay, Faith is back!

[identity profile] pywacket.livejournal.com 2003-04-08 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
ok...yes she IS hot...I wouldn't mind being pinned by her in the least-for an evening.

But Faith has been all balls and no softness until recently. Until the ep when Angel got her to go to jail.

Willow I would absolutely be in an LTR and the same for spike (however bad for my psyche bad boys are)

Oh god, yes I've thought about this. Maybe I should make my second ever foray into / fiction?
(once long ago with classic trek).

Re: Yay, Faith is back!

[identity profile] lightcastle.livejournal.com 2003-04-08 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Your bad boy thing? Mine for Faith.

Actually, if you watch Season 3 closely, you can really see Faith yearn to be saved and then fall to pieces as she can't quite take the step to reach out and Buffy can't quite see it coming.

Her whole arc since then has been about coming to terms with what she was and is.

Interestingly, this makes her and Spike pretty much in the same boat, which could make for a VERY interesting dynamic. (Hell, if we follow my idea, then after all the Slayers in Training are dead, we kill Faith, try to kill Buffy, and Buff releases the power in time for it to return to Faith. Or we just have her do it before Faith dies and the circle is complete. Then Buffy is normal, Giles goes off to create a new Watcher's council that doesn't abuse the Slayers it teaches, and Faith and Spike go off to be crusaders.)

And to set the record straight, I think Season 4 is great, and the evolution of the characters past high school there is wonderful. But given that he couldn't do the exploration of the darkness at the heart of slayerdom in Season 5 (as was obviouslty his intent), I would gladly sacrifice Season 4's goodness to eliminate the drek of parts of 5, almost all of 6, and the rough spots of 7.

Re: Yay, Faith is back!

[identity profile] pywacket.livejournal.com 2003-04-08 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
who ARE you...you are giving me a woody in the worst way.

I only indulge in these thoughts in private..so interesting to see them brought into the light so to speak.

I am usually one for terse comments but will not do so in this case...pardon my netettiquete of using too many ellipses in place of proper punctuation. I have a baby and a diabetic cat (and three other...cats that is)

If Faith reached out I couldn't see it, though I thought I did at one point. Her character did NOT make that gesture believable. She has always and remains (though I want to see her differently) two dimensional--hard ass. I never liked her 5 by 5 persona...'cause I had her backstory and it didn't ring true.

At the risk of not responding to everything (cause my own slayer has just started walking and wakes every two hours) please include me in your future discussions.





Re: Yay, Faith is back!

[identity profile] lightcastle.livejournal.com 2003-04-09 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
>who ARE you?

No one of consequence.

(I was going to let you catch that reference, but I'm late. I'm a friend (virtually) of [livejournal.com profile] athena_51 and wandered through her friends list. Ended up here.)


Faith tried to reach out. She checks herself. She bails. She chickens out on making that step. And Buffy, being wrapped up in Buffy-dom (something she has only gotten worse about in years since) never noticed that someone needed to take step to Faith. Angel noticed. He had a shot, but Wes wrecked it. Until Angel season 1.

See below for future discussions. :)